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Margaret Santjer (Editor) May 20, 2013 at 10:45 am
Hi, Susan and Lou. We do know that our events calendar has issues at the moment with incorrect times…Read More displaying, and our engineering team is at work to correct this. My best suggestion at the moment is to post a comment on an event with the correct time, if you aren't able to go in and edit an event that you previously posted.
Our ownership has not changed -- we have been and continue to be a part of the AOL family. Our intent with the new design is to highlight the great content that our users create and share with the community. We know there have been some bumps with our launch and are working diligently to fix them. We hope you'll be patient with us and continue to share on Patch.
Lou Kitchen May 18, 2013 at 09:13 am
I agree the previous version was much better and I am not adjusting well to the new version at all.…Read More Its definitely not a better layout. Also have had many problems with the events calendar which may not even be fixable.
Mary Magalhaes May 14, 2013 at 11:12 pm
This is exciting news for our community! Thank you so much for sharing Susan! :o)
Darrel Dickson April 19, 2013 at 03:40 pm
I have just learned that public comments may not be allowed tonight. However, the meeting is open…Read More and the public is welcome to attend and I encourage all to attend. Sincerely, Darrel Dickson
Susan Etchey April 2, 2013 at 06:57 pm
Always looking for a local nature trail, I really enjoy reading Mary Janosik's well written blog. In…Read More fact, almost all the dedicated bloggers posting on the Enumclaw PATCH have something worthwhile reading. But it is not an easy job for most of us, taking some time to research and write, without any compensation. Our only reward is knowing we are being read and appreciated and the only way we know that is when you comment. In my opinion, most of the PATCH blogs are a community service, informing residents about our community and issues concerning you, our readers. So please send your favorite bloggers a thank you or a comment once in awhile to keep us motivated and feel appreciated..
John Anderson May 17, 2013 at 08:50 pm
Hi Maggie,
We got an email noting you had made a comment, but unfortunately, it was right before…Read More Patch switched to the new format and all the prior comments, including yours, disappeared. But to answer your question, the garden is open Sundays in May. We look forward to seeing you.
John Anderson May 15, 2013 at 05:00 pm
If you are confused about the pictures, it is because in the change to the new Patch format, the…Read More order changed and the captions disappeared. We have been told this will be fixed by the end of the week. All comments have also disappeared. If this one makes it, at least that is progress.
Jody Cantrell Dyer May 3, 2013 at 09:55 am
Readers, I would love to hear your thoughts! Congratulations on having the hearts to adopt, by the…Read More way. Thanks again Patty!
Karen Olson May 1, 2013 at 12:29 pm
I am so pleased and appreciative of this terrific group, led by our wonderfully focused Chris…Read More Hansen-you are keeping our hearts, souls, and dreams alive for our future NBA Basketball Team!! We will persevere! No fear-even if it is a few years off-this may be just a warm up for the final steps necessary to bring our Sonics Home!!! They are coming! One of your biggest fan and supporter!! Karen
Mark Hoppen May 1, 2013 at 10:19 am
I'm with you Brent, except in one respect. Perhaps the Sonics would have stayed in Seattle if…Read More leadership, both Wasington State and Seattle, had generated a committed vision for a stadium. At the time, our local capacity for action was nil. Sacramento, today, has generated a serious, committed effort in an incredibly short time led by a mayor. Imagine that! So, noting that distinction, Howard, David, and even Clay, are kind of absolved. The threshold criterion in Stern's mind is the will to act on an arena. In that sense, he appears consistent. As for Howard, on one hand he appears to have had his one great imaginative idea when he opened the latte site. Hansen, on the other hand, is a creative generator. I still think a team will emerge, if not now, relatively soon, say within two years.
Brent Champaco (Editor) April 30, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Could you tell I was a little peeved, Dan? Seriously, I absolutely agree about that Sacramento plan.…Read More So many holes it's ridiculous. It will be interesting to see how H/B/N will respond. They're successful billionaires for a reason. I'm assuming helplessly losing out on an investment isn't one of them.
Carolyn Horlor May 11, 2013 at 12:23 am
Each season, I enjoy what we do more and more, but I do not know how we will possibly top this…Read More performance! We have laughed and laughed during our rehearsals with some of the song, and others have brought tears to our eyes and sent shivers down our arms. We'll sing great music, and we can guarantee anyone who comes to watch will go away after the performance with a light heart and a big smile.
Our conductor, Dean Suess, is so talented! And our accompanist, Gregory Smith, has to be seen to be believed. He is one of the most accomplished musicians I have worked with, especially with his musical improvisational skills. The choir, of course, sounds fabulous. And you can see all of this for the low price of only $10.
Don't let the Enumclaw Stage Race prevent you from coming. And please bring a can of food for the Enumclaw Food Bank!
Trudy D'Armond May 10, 2013 at 01:22 pm
Wow! Thank you, Susan! I have to say, singing with this great group of men and women is very…Read More inspiring. I can easily invision all of us working together, picking hops over onehundred years ago. CFC carries the pioneer spirit of community pride and hard work, while celebrating our accomplishments as a seriously hard working, non profit organization. We ARE the "Ma and Pa's" of chorale music and performing arts in Enumclaw. We're going to show some of this Enumclaw pride tomorrow on May 11th by singing the National Anthem at Emerald Downs Race Track in Auburn. I am so very honored to be an Enumclaw native and call Cascade Foothills Chorale my musical family.
Susan Etchey May 10, 2013 at 11:39 am
Local songwriter Trudy D' Armond wrote the lyrics for Hop Pickin' Time to be sung by the Cascade…Read More Foothills Chorale at the "Coal, Cows, Timber and Trains" concert next weekend. The audience will be asked to sing-a-long. It goes like this:
Hop Pickin’ Time!
Chorus
It’s Hop pickin’ time… Hop pickin’ time
Folks from all around will come to pick
It’s Hop pickin’ time… Hop pickin’ time
Time to pick those Hop flowers quick
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MEN: Hop Jacks are hollerin’… kids are squal-lerin’
Ma and Pa are picking side by side
Brought a picnic lunch, nuff to feed a bunch
Sittin’ in the shade by and by
Chorus
It’s Hop pickin’ time… Hop pickin’ time
Folks from all around will come to pick
It’s Hop pickin’ time… Hop pickin’ time
Time to pick those Hop flowers quick
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WOMEN: Those buds aren’t gonna rot… the dryin’ house is hot
Harvest time is already here!
The Hops are on their way… They’re movin’ out today
To make our famous Hop flavored beer
Chorus
It’s Hop pickin’ time… Hop pickin’ time
Folks from all around will come to pick
It’s Hop pickin’ time… Hop pickin’ time
Time to pick those Hop flowers quick
Justin April 30, 2013 at 01:27 pm
Just watch a Seahawks game and tell me who has better fans than the 12th man!
John Snow April 30, 2013 at 11:01 am
Years ago my cousin lived in Seattle for a while. His observation about major league sports then…Read More was that Seattle would never truly be a big-league sports town because there is just too much to do around here. Skiing, boating, hiking, fishing, flying, climbing, etc., etc. I'm inclined to believe he was correct.
Mary Magalhaes May 8, 2013 at 02:49 pm
I want to add a special shout-out to my father, John Locatelli, for his help in designing and…Read More building the structure that held the flowers and to my brother Adam for his delicate welding skills. Think of us when you need flowers delivered for Mother's Day.
Doreen Anderson April 26, 2013 at 03:05 pm
Thanks, Susan, for keeping us up-to-date on news of our local artists. We have so much…Read More extraordinary talent in our small town, and it's gratifying and fun to see that it is recognized in the larger arts community.
And congratulations, Mary, on a second honor this spring--loved your entry for the NW Flower and Garden Show--saw it posted here and then in the shop's window, and can see why it got the People's Choice Award!
Joe M April 26, 2013 at 11:06 pm
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed reading my past posts. For someone who complains about…Read More "irrelevant cites and copious posting" you sure wandered way off topic. (Speaking of which, we're tied 8-8 on comments for this article - one more and you win:-)
For what it's worth, I have never belonged to any political party and have plenty of agreement and disagreement with the core principles of each (Republican, Democrat, Libertarian and Green). So call me what you want. I look at each issue on its own merits, and not in terms of any kind of ideology.
I'm not going to try to go point by point with all the ways you've misrepresented me, but I will add a comment about the Boy Scouts. I never advocated that they be forced to do anything. I respect them and the fact that they are a private religious organization. My opinions were about what I think they should do, and what I believe they will eventually do, however long it takes.
If you could find a way to be a bit less confrontational, you might find we have more in common than our technical backgrounds. Cheers - have a great weekend.
Kirkland Tony April 26, 2013 at 09:53 pm
Joe, you do realize we can easily read your past posts ON EVERY THREAD, don't you? It takes no time…Read More at all to see that you are left of center and aggressive at times about it. I didn't check bother prior to your latest message because I foolishly took you at face value - I assumed you were honest in your defense of the duplicitous words of Trent and actions of the Administration. But your history on guns (though you're near middle) and on whether a private organization (the Boy Scouts) should be forced to accept volunteers who violate their interpretation of their own oath, for examples, belie your claims.
Joe, when I drive a car, I do not kill children. (Your example - see, I did read your history.) Maybe you do, and have some responsibility to accept. I don't believe that you are responsible for my actions, but I believe you should be held as hard as hell accountable for yours. In this case, the Democrats (and, wrt FAA, Obama) made the calls and should be accountable.
One other thing... from reading your history, I see you are incredibly verbose; about seven messages a day average. And probably a retired former pilot former computer programmer. I still have a job (and background bizarrely similar to what it sounds like yours is.) You don't win or make your point by wearing us down with your irrelevant cites and copious posting. You just make yourself feel good.
Joe M April 26, 2013 at 10:12 am
When you said "Joe, I've been reading some leftist sites to try to better understand your…Read More perspective. ", I lost what little interest I had in continuing this discussion with you. You want to frame this as part of a grand war between left and right. I have no interest in siding with either, except on individual issues.
As for Trent Latta, I don't find him or this article to be very interesting. Like you, he seems to want to frame this as a left vs right battle. Neither he nor any of his critics have given me any information that would help me know what a reasonable level of spending for the courts would be. Meh.
John Anderson April 19, 2013 at 03:53 pm
The Louis Olson house you grew up in is a beautiful structure. What an exciting place to live. One…Read More of the reasons my parents picked Enumclaw to settle in was an initial impression of the town they got from that house and the J.J. Smith house down the street. Thanks for posting.
Jay Decker April 17, 2013 at 04:15 pm
Thank you for posting the pictures. I grew up in the Louis Olson house and always enjoy seeing old…Read More (and more recent) pictures of her. Thank you for capturing these images for all to enjoy.
Doreen Anderson March 25, 2013 at 02:51 pm
We don't think there's a photo of one very early "house" John wanted to feature. Minerva…Read More Price described it in a Pioneer History interview (Women's Progressive Club, 1941, p. 71). Minerva had arrived here from Minnesota at age 13 in 1899 with her mother and two siblings and was thrilled with "the full view of dear old Mt. Rainier in all its grandeur, and entrancing beauty at our feet." The town itself was still very small, and some homes were pretty rustic.
"The most primitive of all in our little town," Minerva said, "was a house built of a few boards in the heart of an old stump, in which lived an old man. This was indeed a great curiosity to us children and we used to go around and take a peek at it when we were quite sure the occupant was not at home."
As you may recall, our founders the Stevensons lived in a very basic shack for some time (but a step up from a stump). Eventually they did build a fine new home (later donated for a library). Minerva Price recalled that during its construction she and friend Noreen Paumell went upstairs to count the buildings: about two dozen. Besides a few homes and her mother's millinery shop (hats were important!), she remembered "two hotels, Stevensons and the Western; the railroad station; Griffin and Blakes; and Van Bressen's general merchandise store; one drug store; a blacksmith shop; two saloons; the school house built in a small clearing of the timber." (John plans to feature commercial buildings in a blog soon.)
Doreen Anderson April 5, 2013 at 04:55 pm
Mary--Hate to break it to you, but Yes, your growing-up-here stories do qualify as…Read More "history". Think of all the folks in Enumclaw who weren't even born in the 70s when you got married! OK, it's all right if you'd rather not think of it. Dismaying, I know--what a jolt to me when I saw my 1950s hair curlers rolled up on a mannequin's head in Buckley's Foothills Museum. I'm history and in a museum already! Born in the 40s myself, I always thought of the 30s as "a time apart...a previous era...before my time...", you know, Way Back When.... Now I'm afraid my young adult grandsons think of the 80s that way! (As Tevye and Golde sang in Fiddler on the Roof, "I don't remember growing older. WHEN did THEY?")
And very definitely your parents and grandparents are part of Enumclaw's history. A blacksmith shop on Rainier Avenue? Do you know any more about it? 1930s? Thanks for sharing--you and your family must know a lot of local history, even if we don't think of it as "history" yet. Have somebody write it all down. What's happening today will be history TOMORROW....
Mary Janosik April 2, 2013 at 02:25 am
Hi John and Doreen!! I have so enjoyed every part of every blog about our history and the people…Read More that are responsible for building this wonderful community. Thank you for all your hard work putting this together for the enjoyment and education of even the locals...me!! Everything I love about Enumclaw stems from growing up here!!!
I don't quite go back that far myself, but this is around the time period when Bert and Vita Morris moved here from Tacoma, where Grandpa had worked in the shipyards. He open up a blacksmith shop on Rainier Ave. When they moved here they already had a couple of sons...Jim, Bob and probably Doug. At around the same time, maybe a little earlier, Ken and Elma Barkley also moved from Roy to Enumclaw, where Grandpa raised beef cattle while Grandma taught at an elementary school in Auburn. Their 2 daughters were Jan and Jean. In the early 50s, Jim and Jean became an item in high school and were married a few months after their graduation in 1953. I am the oldest of 6 children Jim and Jean raised in this town...for much of my childhood we lived on the back-side of Mt. Peak. Great back yard!! Coincidentally, I married my high school sweetheart in 1973...40 years ago!! Does that qualify as history?? Our kids think we are ancient. How does time go by so quickly???
Doreen Anderson April 2, 2013 at 12:58 am
Hi Cathy Thanks for your comments about the Stygars. And we echo your thanks for their…Read More contribution to the museum we have today. We haven't known them long, but have seen that they've played a significant role in the development and maintenance of the museum's work. One of the docents recently found us a document located back in what are labeled "Bob's Files"-- we can appreciate his years of sorting and filing (ongoing) as well as managing finances of this great local resource. We do enjoy seeing both Bob and Helen whenever they are on duty at the museum!
Katie Pickett April 21, 2013 at 04:01 pm
Wow, this directly correlates and supports my previous blog entry! This is a MUST for any business…Read More owner!
Enumclaw Citizen April 18, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Don't we have roads that need to be repaired in the City of Enumclaw? What about all of the vacant…Read More business or the problems we have with the Golf course and Fairgrounds losing money each year. Don't the Senior Center and Youth Center need funding for next year?
Maybe the councilmen should do the job he has currently.
Lou Kitchen April 18, 2013 at 11:39 am
I also am in favor of this agreement and its ability to protect more forest land and keep it out of…Read More the hands of developers. But, the fees for use are too high and now that taxpayer money is being used for this agreement then taxpayers should not have to pay such high fees. Much lower fees would be a better idea.
cathy April 18, 2013 at 10:40 am
I am in favor of the basic premise of the agreement. I think it will help to preserve the…Read More rural/forest environment that has for generations defined Enumclaw and the area to the East. It will be good to continue to attract visitors to the local businesses as they are traveling through town on their way to and from recreational and sightseeing areas, and would preserve nearby recreational opportunities for locals.
I am disappointed that there was not more communication prior to the decision making process; and, while I wouldn't say that free access should be guaranteed in perpetuity, it seems reasonable that if taxpayer monies are funding this, that the fees that may be charged, need to be in line with those of other park areas...meaning either free or low cost to the average family or included in a pass that allows access to many park lands.
Thanks for asking!
Cathy Kombol April 18, 2013 at 11:37 pm
i really enjoyed the artist reception . i take painting classes from Helma and love it . Arts…Read More Alive is a wonderful place in Enumclaw . big thank you to all who organized the event and to writer Susan Etchey for covering the arts !
Samantha Rheinford April 16, 2013 at 04:53 pm
What a wonderful evening! Thank you Sallie, Helma, and Lorrie for sharing your talent with us!
Next…Read More artsist reception is Friday May 3rd 6-8pm. Featuring Bruce Benson (photography) and Marty Wallace ( Fiber Arts ). Open to the public.
Susan Etchey April 16, 2013 at 02:02 pm
Thank you, John and Doreen for uploading so many fun photos to see of the people attending this…Read More event. You captured the spirit of the night!
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